What is a shoo-fly bridge? - Trains Magazine

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Posted by spbed on Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:03 AM OK so they place culverts 1st at the creeks bottom then bring dirt in pour the dirt over the culverts to fill in the gap. Correct? Then after putting up a real bridge they will take the "shoo" fly bridge away. Correct again? [:p][:)][:o)]

Originally posted by Soo2610 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR  Austin TX Sub Member since April 2005 From: Nanaimo BC Canada 4,114 posts Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, May 7, 2005 2:19 AM Jeaton ; The term shoo-fly is not explained in the 8/83 Trains or 1/91 CTC Board articles. Does anyone out there have the 1/02 Mainline Modeler or the5,6/82 Prototype Modeler magazines ? If you really want to know , e-mail the editor at Trains. Dale Member since February 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, May 6, 2005 10:26 PM Anyone know of websites of the pictures of this bridge rebuild or pile up? Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Member since April 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:57 PM I was wondering about the origin too. I've seen several arial photos of the wreck. It was an older, double track, through truss bridge. When the pile up began, several cars piled up inside the bridge, then they began to pile up against the bridge. Tore out several girders on the truss and knocked the end off the end abutment that supports it. One end of the bridge partially dropped down toward the river. The rails were about 12 feet above the water when the bridge was in good repair. The cars accordianed up, perpendicular to the track. I can't imagine the bang it made. UP had the shoo-fly running by about 6 pm last night and had about 25 trains over it by around 10 am today. They're driving pilings today and expect to have the concrete poured for the first bridge by end of day Sun and the 2nd bridge by end of day Weds. Member since September 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:23 PM OK Next question. Origin of the term? Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Member since December 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,767 posts Posted by mudchicken on Friday, May 6, 2005 7:17 PM I think you folks finally got it straightened out. At least I don't have to describe a line change or station equation now. Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Member since August 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Friday, May 6, 2005 6:41 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73 It would just be a bridge on a shoo-fly , or , a shoo-fly with a bridge .UP can't just put a temporary fill into that creek until the main is repaired. And not to be confused with a fly-over... :-) Which I think might have been the original meaning somebody was going for when they brought up the new UP one... If that's where the question arose from. Dave -DPD Productions - Introducing the NEW TrainTenna LP Directional RR Radio Monitoring Antenna- Member since September 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Friday, May 6, 2005 4:40 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish Gabe, I've always understood a shoo-fly anything to be a temporary structure around a derailment, washout, etc. Shoo-fly pie, on the other hand, is a Pennsylvania Dutch dessert so sweet your teeth will fall out in your hand. Try taking this recipe over to the Diner and ask Cherokee Woman nicely if she would consider adding it to the menu. Larry Thanks Larry. Gabe,Ifish,Ed, Your understanding of a "shoo-fly" is about like the one I've known over the years,a "temporary structure,around whatever." I am not by any means an expert,but that's what I've seen,read,heard over the years. And it Will be available in the 'Diner'. I have not seen any pictures of the actual derailment/accident,but would imagine it will take awhile to get things back to 'normal'. Actually hope mudchicken can enlighten us a little more,I would like to learn more than I think I already know. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Member since January 2001 From: US 354 posts Posted by Soo2610 on Friday, May 6, 2005 4:18 PM Gabe, Read somewhere this morning that the UP expects to have the double track replacement bridge up and running by next Wednesday. That is quick! Just imagine the traffic in Rochelle now that the temporary bridge is operating and they try to clear out the back log of trains. Member since April 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 4:18 PM And I guess that after your teeth fall out, then you can go to the dentist and get a shoo-fly bridge. Member since March 2004 From: Indianapolis, Indiana 2,434 posts Posted by gabe on Friday, May 6, 2005 4:07 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish Gabe, I've always understood a shoo-fly anything to be a temporary structure around a derailment, washout, etc. Shoo-fly pie, on the other hand, is a Pennsylvania Dutch dessert so sweet your teeth will fall out in your hand. Try taking this recipe over to the Diner and ask Cherokee Woman nicely if she would consider adding it to the menu. Larry Thanks Larry. More great sites from Kalmbach Media